One fan said: "I didnt like Riley Finn when he first became Buffy's boyfriend but by the time he left I was really sad. Personally I thinkASH's departure this season was even more devastating. Both of . [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. Personally I think> > ASH's departure this season was even more devastating.> >>> I wonder. If you've been paying any attention to running news (or just big headlines in general) then you are already familiar with Lindsay's work. Returning to his apartment, Lindsey found that Darla had left town, taking all her clothes with her. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. She is of Russian Jewish and Hungarian Jewish descent. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> taser by a then unknown assailant? Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. One of the biggest last minute changes that affected Buffy was Seth Green leaving early in production of season four. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> > taser by a then unknown assailant? I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? Consequently, his work at the firm suffered as he aired his hatred towards Angel against his colleagues while still in a race with Lilah for the promotion. Re-writes and character alterations happen all the time in T.V., but her direction shifts so radically so fast that it's always struck me as odd. [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. I doubt it. Oh my god, how lame is that?-------------------------------------------------------------------------, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti, On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:16:49 -0400, Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\) <, I had thought there'd be more Walsh in S4Too bad, LC missed a real chance to. He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." To me that would have been a cooler idea since you don't need to have a huge hidden base under campus and it does not make the Slayer's job completely redundant since you don't have an armed squad of demon-hunter doing her job, just your everyday mad scientist. That's because as with most female athletes, no matter how good she got, those things. His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. Kills me! Among them was the donor of Lindsey's hand, an old friend of his from his mailroom days. [citationneeded], You kill me? Kane has described the character as being driven by cynicism and ambition: "I still think this cat looks at the glass as being half empty. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. He was eventually rescued by Angel, Spike, and Charles Gunn for information they need. Lindsey was left alone, beaten both physically and emotionally. Among her films was a starring role in House of Games, the 1987 film directed and written by her then-husband David Mamet, in which she plays Margaret Ford, a psychiatrist who is intrigued by the art of the con. The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. Shesaid the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out oftheir hats at the last minute. Vampires could not set foot in a church or look upon a holy relic6. (Presumably Watchers and other supernatural experts knew more). They could mesmerise a victim with a stare8. If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. YesI was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appearin Buffy, 1. if you stabbed a vampire with a stake in the heart you would have toleave it there as removing it would resurrect the vampire2. Crouse is a Buddhist. the exact opposite of this paragraph. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. I loved Eliza Dushku, but she got a greatending on Angel so I don't mind her absence. -- Jukka.@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela), The answer to all questions starting with those four words is "Yes.". The trailblazing basketball player died last month at age 66. I just can't see Oz taking Tara's place. 1999 . I think the way they went made it much scarier, though. She was just in the way of his goal and so she had to be eliminated- and I think that cold, emotionless demon is always more unnerving than any other. Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. But to be honest, i think her story played out the way it should have been. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. Any more word on this? For me, the character of Maggie Walsh is a great addition to this season. The. Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. Vampires could shapeshift into bats, wolfs and even smoke4. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. Yes> I was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appear> in Buffy>. ), >it would have had more impact. Buffy has actually played on this a bit in "Buffy v Dracula" when Spike blames Dracula for spilling the beans about vampire weaknesses-- implying that before Dracula's story was written, most myth and legend knew little or nothing about them. "You have to keep the poetry very, very active, which is pretty easy with Dickinson. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be amotherly type to Riley. I really enjoy the strong, challenging women that pop up in Buffy's world - Maggie Walsh, Jenny Calendar, Anya, & Tara to name a few. Gellar has stated she believes Whedon's original intention was "was to put Xander and Buffy together. The break was eventually detected and Lindsey, along with Lilah, Lee, and several other employees where searched by mind readers. Before the Initiative showed up I had assumed that Maggie had discovered the existance of vampires and was using them as guinea pigs for various psych experiments. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. Sunnydale in further> > episodes before it was all revealed to us.> > --. When he did, Lindsay discovered the man slaughter was a hoax to get Darla to Angel and hopefully take his soul. Although it seemed that he and Angel had buried the hatchet, Lindsey was unable to cope with the fact that the Senior Partners gave Angel everything that Lindsey had worked so hard for. It was> > Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> > front of everyone at the Initiative. "[10] In 2007, Crouse opened a revival of The Belle of Amherst, a one-woman show about the life of poet Emily Dickinson, at the Gloucester Stage in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. Professor Maggie Walsh is introduced in Season Four, as Buffy's Psychology professor at the University of California, Sunnydale, but is later revealed as the leader of the government-controlled Initiative, a military project intent on capturing, studying, and modifying the behavior of various demons. [16], While Spike fought the zombie defenses protecting the creature meant to kill Angel, Angel and Lindsey dueled in the chamber where the "contingency plan" was stored. Lindsay Crouse ( @lindsaycrouse) is a writer and producer in Opinion. [7], Due to his and Lilah's achievements, they were congratulated at Holland's wine tasting party where Darla and Drusilla came and massacred everyone there, save for Lindsey and Lilah, as payback for being used as pawns. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. It was> Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> front of everyone at the Initiative. ""Are you kidding? She did my head in so im glad that she didnt keep going. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. Many people don't realize sports are one of the best short cuts for the wealthy in elite college admissions. Riley later. Although his deception is exposed and the Cup revealed to be a fake, Lindsey's plans were nevertheless served as Angel begins to doubt himself after losing to Spike. He did this by casually informing the board in a meeting that he was bored with the firm's games while assaulting his colleagues and throwing the promotion to Lilah after revealing she carried files against them out of fear that she would not be promoted and thus killed. When he tried to kill the aspiring actress Cordelia Chase, Angel attacked Russell at his manor to save her. To me she was always a secondarycharacter, I liked the character and the actress, but the death just didn'ttouch me. ), -- Don Sample, dsa@synapse.netVisit the Buffy Body Count at http://www.synapse.net/~dsample/BBCQuando omni flunkus moritati. It wasMaggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy infront of everyone at the Initiative. Emmy Award-winning Sarah Michelle Gellar was born on April 14, 1977 in New York City, the daughter of Rosellen (Greenfield), who taught at a nursery school, and Arthur Gellar, who worked in the garment industry. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: How many seasons of Buffy are there? -- Let the Darwin fishes swim!------------------------------------http://www.darwin-fish.com/fish.html------------------------------------, > In article <3D075A59@rcn.com>, Carmikl > wrote:> > > > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. Is it true that Maggie Walsh was the original planned season 4 Big Bad? I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. When Faith made the deal known to him, Angel broke into Lindsey's though was quickly caught out when Lindsey walked in. --from a usenet discussion. His character went on to feature in a comic book which focused on Riley and his new wife. [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. [citationneeded], However, Cordelia's seemingly returning to life was a risk Lindsey's plans. This was the first lesbian recurring character on a major network. The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! She> said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> their hats at the last minute. -- Tim McDaniel is tm@jump.net; if that fail, tm@us.ibm.com is my work account. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine) and Russel Crouse, a playwright. Angel fought Darla for it at the event and Lindsey tried to protect her from Wolfram & Hart, which tried to kill her. Actual legends appear to be enormously miscellaneous and seldom include these familiar pieces, while they often *do* include pieces that we (and Hollywood) would say just belong to ghosts, werewolves, zombies, and the like. This then forced Lindsey to use an artificial hand from then on. The only Buffy depatures that really phased me were Robia LaMorte, SethGreen, and Kristine Sutherland. A stunned Lindsey slumps against by a wall, outraged that he was killed by one of Angel's "flunkies" instead of the vampire himself. Unless she really was evil, I don't think she intended to create a monster that would kill everyone? > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Buffy The Vampire Slayer is a classic supernatural series which has returned to All 4. After huge amounts of fan speculation on the idea, a vampirised Slayer finally did appear in the "Season Nine" comics. When informed by Eve that Spike had failed, Lindsey activated the Senior Partners' program meant to kill Angel if he turned against them. In 1977, she appeared as Lily Braden, the discontented wife of hockey player Ned Braden in Slap Shot. Adam activates the chip Walsh had inserted into Riley's heart, making him biddable to Adam's command. She is also a Grammy Award nominee. The two agreed to fight the upcoming battle together and, at the end, resolve their differences, maybe even allowing Lindsey to take a powerful position at Wolfram & Hart as "the devil [they knew]. Eliza Dushku, who played the rogue slayer Faith Lehane, was not represented at all. Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Not according to Joss. And so, damn it, I'm going to drink the rest of that water. Touched by an Angel. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Meet Lindsay Crouse. He would have been a mama's boy, an interestingfollow-up to Angel. This transcript is intended to be used for criticism, comment, and research purposes. At some point, he began a relationship with Eve, the Liaison to the Senior Partners. I figured it was just her and her grad students, capturing vampires and locking them up in the basements of the university, performing experiments that they couldn't perform on humans. Their last collaboration was Mr. President in 1962. Better safe than splattered. That doesn't mean that the legends are true. [1], After saving the three children, Lindsey returned to Holland, returning the disks and admitting to what he did. "Look at my generation. [9], They learned that Angel had nothing and the footage consisted of nothing but Cordelia and Wesley messing around; it not only embarrassed them when they acted suspiciously to stop the footage being shown, but it allowed the demon to take the money and return it to Anne. [19], You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. The WB/YouTube. There were other indications that an> > unknown force was at work in and around U.C. His character was undergoing military training, but the creators of the series wanted to bring even more depth to Riley Finn. And when he came back I realized that I really missed Riley.". The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. Hoping that his performance would pick up again with the return of his hand, Lindsey's superiors arranged for him to receive a mystical transplant. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. Find where to watch Lindsay Crouse's latest movies and tv shows . [citationneeded], Lindsey responded by changing into his casual clothes, getting into his truck and by brutally beating Angel with it and a sledgehammer, demanding to know what happened with Darla. riiighhht?) 2. Because their behavior was shown on national television, coupled with the loss of the money and their attempt to kill Angel was revealed, which was against the firm's policy, their new supervisor Nathan Reed told them that Angel's life was invaluable while they were replaceable. . Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' Not bad, but the mix would have beenbetter. We bring you all the headlines and gossip in one place! JavaScript is disabled. As Crouse has said: "In our family, the work ethic was held up as some kind of byword At any hour, somebody's typewriter was going."[5]. For more information, please see our Walsh was basically working on something that was inhuman, which in turn could be explained by saying that Adam was born out of the dark part of Walsh's soul/mind. Vampires were more primeval and didn't get emotionally involved withpeople or other vampires for that matter, There are more differences but I have forgotten the rest :-). Realising he could never truly be with her, he rejoined the military and took off on a helicopter, leaving Buffy standing helplessly below. I think she feels she's in direct competition with Buffy. [11] Nineteen days later, Lindsey makes a trip to the crater where Sunnydale once stood and digs Spike's amulet out of the Hellmouth. She doesn't have the time for it. Marc Blucas: The actor played Riley Finn in Buffy, Marc Blucas: The actor played Buffy's boyfriend. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. I've been expecting Tara to leave or>be off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLY>goneright? > And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone> Ranger complex. Since he wouldn't do it, Lindsey stormed into her hotel with armed men, with Lindsey personally having Angel tasered and forcing him to watch as Drusilla entered the room and re-sired Darla. [1], Lindsey used his pass to get Angel past security so he could steal disks with information against his colleagues. Vampires Don't bleed or get injured5. . 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. Too bad. Ooh, didn't know that. I thought the character came into her own in season five and blossomed as the moral core of Buffy's gang this year. The Bridge, Iain Banks, > > Her interview in The Watcher's Guide, vol. At Harvard, 46.3% of recruited athletes in the class of 2022 come from families with household incomes of $250,000+, compared with 1/3 of the class as a whole. The fleur-de-lis bracelet that Lindsey wears throughout his time on the show is actually a bracelet that Christian Kane wears to remind him of his mother who is from New Orleans. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> motherly type to Riley. I know in a lot of the *old* werewolf stories, youdidn't need silver to kill one, but after all these bleedin' movies got theissue confused, if *I* were hunting one, I don't think I'd gamble on whetherthey were wrong! [citationneeded]. The Big Bang Theory finale: Who did Sarah Michelle Gellar play? The Initiative is her baby. ESPECIALLY if he had returned from controlling hiswerewolf self and got back with Willow (excluding any messy Taraentanglements), then they were totally happyand THEN Oz got shot atthe end of Season 6. A good guy. Apparently Adam wasoriginally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted outof her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >> > Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant they> > had to scramble. Holland, surprised by Lindsey's willingness to stand up as his person, welcomed Lindsey back, giving him a raise and his own office. Lindsey had tattoos of Enochian protection runes over his body, mystically hiding his presence from the Senior Partners. Lindsay Crouse's full name is Lindsay Ann Crouse and her nickname is Lindsay Crouse. Wow, I had no idea Walsh was originally intended to be the Big Bad. > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. After reading an intriguiging book about vampire legends, it seems to me (the book didn't draw this conclusion, it's my own stab in the hear-- er, dark) that pretty much the entire modern picture of the vampire as played in Hollywood and Gothic fiction comes from Bram Stoker's "Dracula", and Stoker actually made up most of it on his own. Fans struggled to connect with Riley when he was first introduced to the show, as he was seen as just another of Buffy's romances. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Her maternal grandparents were Pauline (Ives) and author and educator John Erskine. However, Adam awakens and impales Walsh, killing her, and escapes from the Initiative. "Because everybody needs to go home and complain about the director. [2], The Senior Partners gave that Eurotrash vampire everything I've worked for. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. Apparently Adam was originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay. Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. They were clearly playing with the Frankenstein myth, where the monster takes a life of its own, ponders the meaning of its existence and wants to create other monsters to keep it company. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. [citationneeded], Lindsey and Eve contrive a situation where Spike saves Angel from a demonic parasite (placed on an unconscious Angel by Eve), which simultaneously disheartened Angel, galvanized Spike, and adds weight and veracity to the claims made by "Doyle"/Lindsey. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. So leaving actually saved his life.
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